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David Krieger's avatar

Fascinating and have ordered from Library as Alvin Finkel, note spelling. Thanks for bringing this book to our attention and another nail in the coffin of rule by neoliberalism, that is the elite. The distribution of wealth over the last 45 years has been so called trickle down. Really been a concentration of wealth and power in a few big corporations and our so called elite in North America especially

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Mark Bourrie's avatar

This wealth also tends to be mort main. It isn’t even used to capitalize new economic projects. It buys things that already exist or is flaunted to build the ego of the people (freaks) who accumulate it.

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Mark Bourrie's avatar

I’d just add that very structured societies are a feature of the irrigation-using cultures that are called the first civilizations. In return for a guaranteed food supply and large tradable surpluses, people needed to submit and belong to a hierarchy that could both organize large public works (digging canals, building dams, running pumps) and run a military that could protect these comparatively wealthy societies from envious neighbours and the many migrations that occurred as climates changed after the last Ice Age.

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Eileen Hurley's avatar

This is an intriguing perspective. It made me think about my rural community that is an unorganised township. Feel like my Irish ancestors and current neighbours could relate to this line: "You want us to agree to take an oath that we will give you half of what we grow and then give another eight or 9% to the church leaving us in dire poverty, fuck off."

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David Arruda's avatar

Great interview! I am excited that my growing reading list has another book added on to it.

Despite atomization, we press forward to fight for the betterment of not only ourselves, but those in our community. I can’t wait to explore this in more detail by reading the book.

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SocraticGadfly's avatar

Other than in the broadest of evolutionary biology strokes, sorry, there is no "300,000 years" of human history. And, per Stephanos Geroulanos' "The Invention of Prehistory," I'm also leery of attempts to impose historical, sociological or economy theories on the prehistoric past. https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/6837568382

I'm also a leftist who 2-starred Graeber/Wengrow: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/4557698983

To put it another way? Standing Hume on his head, a desired "ought" does not imply that an "is" must be necessary, in the philosophical sense of "necessary."

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